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Butler, Pierce (1744-1822) Proposition... from Mr. Franklin [and] Proposition from Mr. Rutledge

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Gilder Lehrman Collection #: GLC00819.11 Author/Creator: Butler, Pierce (1744-1822) Place Written: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Type: Autograph manuscript Date: 30 June - 10 July 1787 Pagination: 3 p. : docket ; 33 x 20 cm.

Summary of Content: Franklin/Rutledge proposals with population figures. Docketed: "Proposition from Doctor Franklin June 30, 87- with sundry reports & Calculations from two Committees." Franklin proposed an equal number of delegates for the second branch of government and fixing their salary (p. 1), while Rutledge proposed basing the number of "suffrages" upon each state's revenues (p. 2). Page 3 consists of calculation of representation for the states

Background Information: Signer of the U.S. Constitution.

Full Transcript: Proposition for Consideration from Mr. Franklin
That the Legislatures of the Several States shall choose and send an equal Number of Delegates Namely-- who are to Compose the second Branch ...of the General Legislature--
That all Cases or Questions wherein the Sovereignty of the Individual States may be affected, or whereby their Authority over their own Citizens may be diminished, or, the Authority of the General Government within the Several States Augmented, each State shall have equal suffrage--
That in the Appointment of all Civil Officers of the General Government in the Election of whom the 2d. Branch may by the Constitution have part, each State shall have equal suffrage.
That in seting [sic] the Salaries of each Officer and in all Allowances for publick [sic] Services, & generally in all Appropriations & Dispositions of Money to be drawn out of the General Treasury & in all Laws for supplying the Treasury the Delligates [sic] of the Several States shall have suffrage in proportion to the Sums their respective States have actualy [sic] contributed to that Treasury--[2]

Prop. by Mr. Rutledge
That the Suffrages of the Several States be regulated and proportioned according to the Sums to be pay'd towards Revenue, by the Inhabitants of Each State respectively--That an apportionment of Suffrages, according to the ratio aforesaid, shall be made & regulated at the End of _______ Years from the first meeting of the Legislature of the U.S. and so from time to time at the end of every _______ Years thereafter but that for the present and until the period above mentioned Delaware shall have our Suffrage.
The Commee. to whom was refer'd the first Clause of the first proposition reported from the Grand Commee. beg leave to report
That in the first meeting of the Legislature the first Branch thereof shall Consist of 56 Members of which New Hampshire shall have ______
But as the present situation of the States may probably alter as well in point of wealth as the No. of their Inhabitants that the Legislature be Authorized from time to time to Augment the Number of Representations and in Case any of the States shall hereafter be divided or any two or more States United or any New States Created within the Limits of the United States the Legislature shall possess Authority to regulate the number of Representatives in any of the foregoing Cases upon the principles of their wealth and No.of Inhabitants. [3]



New Hampshire 2 3
Massachusetts 7 8
R. Island 1 1
Connecticut 4 5
New York 5 6
New Jersey 3 4
Pennsylvania 8 8
Delaware 1 1
Maryland 4 6
Virginia 9 10
North Carolina 5 5
So. Carolina 5 5
Georgia 2 3*
*This principle is grounded, I am told in the following:
The Number of White Inhabitants in the U.S. Supposed to be 2,500,000--the proportions allotted to Each State will be as follows:
New Hampshire 97,847
Massachusetts 374,045
Rhode Island 53,863
Connecticut 220,152
New York 213,739
New Jersey 138,930
Pennsylvania 341,983
Maryland 235,864
Virginia 427,474
No. Carolina 181,655
Georgia 27,060
Returns from Actual Numeration [illegible]
N. Hampshire 102,000
Massachusetts 353,000
Connecticut 202,000
New York 238,000
New Jersey 140,000
Pennsylvania --------
Delaware 40,000
Maryland 218,000
Virginia Suppos'd 400,000
No. Carolina 250,000
So. Carolina 170,000
I suppose Negroes are included in the last 3 States }
Representation as fixed by the Convention in the proportion of one Member in the House of Representatives to 35,000--the Blacks reckoned at the rate of 3/5ths.
New Hampshire 102,000 3 Delaware 1
Massachusetts 352,000 8 Maryland 6
R. Island 1 Virginia 10
Connecticut 5 No. Carolina 5
N. York 6 So. Carolina 5
Jersey 4 Georgia 3__
Pennsylvania _8_ 30
35 total 65.

[docket:]
Proposition from Doctor Franklin June 30th 87--with sundry reports & Calculations from the Commees.








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